meanwhile, there is much animosity in the hotly contested culture wars of the united states. at the heart of the mormon culture is the idea of a divinely mandated injunction to have children. while at rachel's wedding over the weekend, jonathan's dad mentioned this 'scriptural injunction' in passing at the wedding rehearsal/dinner.
certainly, with recent events in our house the subject of fertility has been at the forefront of our thoughts..:) certainly as birth control has become more socially acceptable in the mormon culture (ie. not a damnable offense...) it would seem that US mormon families have trended smaller. i don't have hard numbers to back this up, but certainly amongst our friends of a similar age this seems to hold true. regardless, mormons sit well above the national average in terms of the average US birthrate (2.1)and show no signs of slowing to that level anytime soon.
so with that introduction, i give you some sage words from the ny times magazine. i give you these words since many of you don't like to follow my links:) you don't have to read the words (obviously), but i will spice up the journey with some recent photos of our bundles of joy...interspersed with random asides.
In the 1990s, European demographers began noticing a downward trend in population across the Continent and behind it a sharply falling birthrate. Non-number-crunchers largely ignored the information until a 2002 study by Italian, German and Spanish social scientists focused the data...The figure of 2.1 is widely considered to be the “replacement rate” — the average number of births per woman that will maintain a country’s current population level...For the first time on record, birthrates in southern and Eastern Europe had dropped below 1.3...At that rate, a country’s population would be cut in half in 45 years, creating a falling-off-a-cliff effect from which it would be nearly impossible to recover. Kohler and his colleagues invented an ominous new term for the phenomenon: “lowest-low fertility.”
this 'lowest-low' fertility is an fascinating idea. it may certainly bode for massive worldwide population shifts in the not-to-distant future...

bekah seems unconcerned here as she crawls from the ikea igloo...
...Around the time that President Kennedy went to Germany and gave his “Ich bin ein Berliner” speech, Europe represented 12.5 percent of the world’s population. Today it is 7.2 percent, and if current trends continue, by 2050 only 5 percent of the world will be European.
speaking of fertility...

social conservatives tie the low birthrate to secularism. After arguing for decades that the West had divorced itself from God and church and embraced a self-interested and ultimately self-destructive lifestyle, abetted above all by modern birth control, they feel statistically vindicated...In Germany, where the births-to-deaths ratio now results in an annual population loss of roughly 100,000...
has the 'scriptural injunction' been ignored by the secular european hordes and thus bodes their downfall? or have they smartly stemmed an unsustainable world population that will allow them to better manage their local resources..?

one thing michael knows is that ella enjoyed her first car-ride.
The Canadian conservative Mark Steyn, author of the 2006 best seller “America Alone: The End of the World as We Know It,” has warned his fellow North Americansegarding their European allies, “These countries are going out of business,” and that while at the end of the 21st century there may “still be a geographical area on the map marked as Italy or the Netherlands,” these will “merely be designations for real estate.”
is this alarmist?

the girls enjoyed using the bells on their new trikes to alarm those in their way to watch out...
According to a paper by Jonathan Grant and Stijn Hoorens of the Rand Europe research group: “Demographers and economists foresee that 30 million Europeans of working age will ‘disappear’ by 2050. At the same time, retirement will be lasting decades as the number of people in their 80s and 90s increases dramatically.” The crisis, they argue, will come from a “triple whammy of increasing demand on the welfare state and health-care systems, with a decline in tax contributions from an ever-smaller work force.” That is to say, there won’t be enough workers to pay for the pensions of all those long-living retirees.
certainly a problem with the current health-care systems in europe...is this the model we want to adopt here in the US?

sounds like this problem would have been a great one to be addressed by the guy who signed this sweet shirt...thanks dad:)
When European women age 18 to 34 were asked in another study to state their ideal number of children, 16.6 percent of those in Germany and 12.6 percent in Austria answered “none.” (In Italy, by comparison, this figure was 3.8 percent.) The main reason seems to be a basic change in attitudes on the part of some women as to their “natural” role. According to Nikolai Botev, population and development adviser at the United Nations Population Fund, many observers have been surprised to find that in recent years “childlessness emerges as an ideal lifestyle.”
this idea of childlessness is certainly a viable option as never before in history...and gaining popularity in certain circles...

we certainly aren't pushing for abby to rely solely on some prince charming...but it sure is a fun photo.
“If we look at very recent data for developed countries, we see that Italy has two records that are maybe world records,” he said. “One, young people in Italy stay with their parents longer than maybe anywhere else. No. 2 is the percentage of children born after the parents turn 40. These factors are related, because if you have a late start, you tend not to have a second child, and especially not a third.”
italy sounds like a nice place to live...

these three would rather just read about italy right now.
...50 percent of Italian women work, compared with between 75 percent and 80 percent of women in Scandinavian countries. Despite its veneer of modernity, Italian society prefers women to stay at home after they become mothers, and the government reinforces this. There is little state-financed child care, especially for new mothers, and most newlyweds still find homes close to one or both sets of parents, the assumption being that the extended family will help raise the children. But this no longer works as it once did. “As couples tend to delay childbearing,” Aassve says, “the age gap between generations is widening, and in many cases grandparents, who would be the ones relied upon for child care, themselves become the ones in need of care.”
is the ideal answer state-financed child care? extended family care? parental care?

our kiddos are certainly grateful for their grandparents...
In Scandinavia, thanks in part to state support, the more children a family has, the wealthier it is likely to be, whereas in southern Europe having children is a financial sinkhole, which drags a family toward poverty. Such an analysis flies in the face of social conservatives, who argue that simply encouraging people to have more babies will raise the population and add fuel to the economic engine.
it's an interesting (false?) dichotomy here. it seems an artificial measure since this particular state subsidizes it's larger families where other countries don't...

michael here, subsidizing the star wars franchise.
“The world record for lowest-low fertility right now is South Korea, at 1.1, Japan is just about as low. What we are seeing in Asia is a phenomenon of the 2000s, rather than the 1990s...Western Europe, then, is not the isolated case that some make it out to be. It is simply the first region of the world to record extremely low birthrates.
will much of the world's population 'drop off a cliff'?

michael dropped off those glasses after finishing the new toy story ride at disneyland...
The old conservative argument — that a traditional, working husband and stay-at-home wife family structure produces a healthy, growing population — doesn’t apply, either in the U.S. or anywhere else in the world today. Indeed, the societies most wedded to maintaining that traditional family structure seem to be those with the lowest birthrates. The antidote, in Western Europe, has been the welfare-state model, in which the state provides comprehensive support to couples that want to have children. But the U.S. runs counter to this. Some commentators explain its healthy birthrate in terms of the relatively conservative and religiously oriented nature of American society, which both encourages larger families. It’s also true that mores have evolved in the U.S. to the point where not only is it socially acceptable for fathers to be active participants in raising children, but it’s also often socially unacceptable for them to do otherwise.
the opening sentence in this paragraph is again contradictory as he goes on to admit that many in the US do live this way...not all (and i'm not saying all should), but it is still a viable and common option.

michael found a car that vied for the lead in this race...
So there would seem to be two models for achieving higher fertility: the neosocialist Scandinavian system and the laissez-faire American one. Aassve put it to me this way: “You might say that in order to promote fertility, your society needs to be generous or flexible. The U.S. isn’t very generous, but it is flexible. Italy is not generous in terms of social services and it’s not flexible. There is also a social stigma in countries like Italy, where it is seen as less socially accepted for women with children to work. In the U.S., that is very accepted.”

bekah is perhaps not worried about acceptance here...
For there are those who argue that low birthrate in itself is not a problem at all. Paul Ehrlich, the Stanford scientist who warned us about the “population bomb” in the 1960s, is more certain than ever that the human race is catastrophically straining the planet. “It’s insane to consider low birthrate as a crisis,” he told me. “Basically every person I know in my section of the National Academy of Sciences thinks it’s wonderful that rich countries are starting to shrink their populations to sustainable levels. We have to do that because we’re wrecking our life-support systems.”
funny that the guy who contributed in a big way to much of the over-population hysteria is stubbornly hanging on to his beloved theory...or perhaps that same hysteria brought on eurasia's current state--on the brink of falling off a large populatory cliff of contraction. who's hysterical now..?

california adventure was certainly over-populated on this holiday season visit.
I put this to Carl Haub of the Population Reference Bureau, who monitors global fertility on a daily basis from his perch in Washington. Is it possible that these are basically “good problems,” that Europeans, having trimmed their birthrates, are actually on the right path? That all they have to do is adjust their economies, find creative ways to shrink their cities, get more young and old people into jobs, so that they can keep their pension and health-care systems functioning?
what do you think?

bekah finally decided to just crawl under a table and hide...
Haub wasn’t buying it. “Maybe tinkering with the retirement age and making other economic adjustments is good,” he said. “But you can’t go on forever with a total fertility rate of 1.2. If you compare the size of the 0-to-4 and 29-to-34 age groups in Spain and Italy right now, you see the younger is almost half the size of the older. You can’t keep going with a completely upside-down age distribution, with the pyramid standing on its point. You can’t have a country where everybody lives in a nursing home.”
good point.

thanks for reading. a few new pictures for you. and your thoughts? are these concepts new to you? interesting? or a non-issue...

12 comments:
Paul, it's been a few days since I read this article (and I just skimmed through your posted portions), so my comments may not be very enlightened.
First, I appreciated the article's framing of the issue on economic terms, rather than in the xenophobic rhetoric of some under-population alarmists. I get so tired of hearing people talk about the demise of the French culture. What they really mean to say is that Arabs/Muslims/Africans/(pick a group) are replacing the French, and that's not acceptable.
Second, I found it interesting that the author classified the U.S. as "flexible" in his flexible/generous dichotomy. I've always considered (and I think many feminist legal theorists) would consider the U.S. as a very inflexible place when it comes to women entering and exiting the workforce with the ebb and flow of childbearing and infant-care-taking. In fact, some feminist legal theorists have given up on promoting the destruction of barriers to women's access to paid work outside of the home and are advocating a stipend for household work. (Some suggest that this be a state-paid stipend, while others suggest that the state manage a system in which the working spouse pay the other spouse a percentage of his/her income. Neither sounds very palatable to me at all. With the husband-as-employer model, if you're husband is rich, suddenly your child-care is monetarily worth much more than the very same childcare provided by the janitor's wife next door. And the whole system works only if you have a husband/working spouse. The state-sponsored model is flawed for many reasons I'm sure would not be lost on you.)
The success of Scandinavian countries (if you agree with the author that they are successful), in my view, results not only from the fact that the countries are "generous" but they truly are "flexible." Many have adopted legislation that allows women to enter and exit the workforce relatively fluidly without the penalties in seniority and pay stagnation that you find here in the U.S.
I suppose the question that follows from my comments is why does the U.S. have such a high birthrate compared to many European countries if the U.S. really isn't flexible as the author suggests. I'm not sure, but I think it has to do with the fact that in our culture, the choice for many women is not between having 1 or 2 or 3 children but between having none or some. Because our (American) culture places a high value on children (sometimes in a sad, trophy-like way), women choose to have a child. They then see how difficult re-entering the workforce is, and they instead choose to have one or two more and remain out of the workforce.
Not very well thought out comments, but some ideas.
Consider the anticipated problem in China. Because of overpopulation, the one child/family has been enforced with financial penalties. Supporting an aging population is obvious. There is also a problem with the Chinese tradition of a preference for male children resulting in an increased rate of abortion of female fetuses, and even selective infantcide. This will have interesting consequences.
In the USA, I have seen a trend of more female MDs, who are often choosing to work part time.
And like it or not, we are going to have some sort of socialized medicine soon. A lower incentive for docs as an occupation? Baby boomers are on the way.
I don't dare mention the"xenophobic rhetoric" of an increased Hispanic population who tend to have larger families and lower education traditions and opportunities.
carolina: remember when we were all in japanese class together? and i seem to remember some tarot cards entering in the mix...
carolina: thank you for entering the fray.
i was certainly worried that my placing pictures of the kiddos (in trophy style :) might overstate my thoughts on this issue.
funny, as i was reading the article with all the quoted european birth-rate numbers i was waiting with baited breath to hear the US numbers. i grew up in utah and live in a mormon-sda enclave here in california, so my perception of normality is probably skewed. reading 2.1 and realizing how much higher it is than the very traditional italy was suprising to me. i also agree that the authors conclusions about causes for the birthrates was shoddy. almost thrown in as an afterthought.
you are certainly more aware of the workplace issues surrounding childbirth than i :), but from what i have heard and read america is rigid indeed as compared to other nations.
as a father of now three daughters i am certainly in favor of more freedom for women to live a family life (if they choose) and still attain other significant goals in their lives.
the images displayed on the website evidence amy's choice to stay home, but this fact certainly does not evidence a belief on my part that this lifestyle is the 'only true way':). it is certainly something that amy chose with all support from me to further pursue a career if she chose.
flexibility and incentives in the workplace for men and women to be involved in the raising of their children are necessary and potent ways (i think) to strengthen families.
i have certainly cherished these many days i have had home with the children after ella's birth. stopping in for lunch today to hear that bekah had been asking where i was all morning, and when she wouldn't let go as i left for work was heartwarming and touching to say the least...
dad r: interesting dilemmas. i have struggled with the simplistic coverage of 'marketplace' with their series on health care in the europe. their love-fest for the european programs and their simplistic conclusions (pay doctors less and we can pay for everyone's healthcare--no joke, a recent 15 minutes segment focused soley on doctor salaries in germany and how this has allowed them to cover everyone...)
the problems with direct to consumer advertising, 7 year patents for extremely expensive drugs in america, the american fetish for the latest and greatest imaging (CT, MRI, U/S) coupled with their cost, early life and end of life care for members of society that wouldn't have ever made it to the hospital and/or resuscitations never attempted make for a very complex problem. the idea that turning renumeration over to bureaucratic polititians will fix the problem strains credibility.
i am not, to be clear, against health care coverage for all americans. it is a sad commentary that with rebublicans in power the last 8 years that they have not moved towards a more free-market solution to gaining coverage for the 45 million or so uninsured. the backlash from this may bode ill for the solution that comes about when stephen hussein's relative makes it into office...
hi stevie.
Stephen Hussein, I have forgotten every word of Japanese I learned that year, but I have not forgotten how to read tarot cards.
i'd like a reading...
Paul, I wholeheartedly agree with your statement about increasing opportunities for both parents to be participants in childrearing. We have come a long way, with many companies offering parental leave for both mothers and fathers after the birth of a child. Sadly, we haven't stripped the workplace of the stigma that results when men take advantage of such policies. Stripping the workplace of this stigma would go a long way toward removing the stereotype that women are difficult employees because they have burdensome family responsibilities. In other words, if men had the opportunity to share those family responsibilities more equally, women's position in the paid labor market would be better because (1) they have a lighter load at home, as their husbands are sharing it more and (2) they are equally likely to need leave, etc., as a male employee.
Interesting... thinking about US as an "inflexible" working market for women. Although I'm not well-versed about other nations' "flexibility" in this area... I can see the possibility.
In most cases, this seems to be an issue mostly for women in marriages. Single moms rarely have the luxury of making the workforce "choice."
But it does seem, for the married with child/ren, that the choices are pretty narrow. You can stay home full-time. You can work full-time. You can work part-time. There are some situations that are adaptable for working at home... but they are few. And it seems that a lot of the full/part-time structure is employer-driven contained by categorizations for benefits, etc. that are, indeed, rather "inflexible."
I'd love to be enlightened as to what other kinds of arrangements are common in other countries that we aren't seeing as much in the US?? What are these more flexible models??
I, too, love that there is more focus on fathers' responsibilities within the family... not just as the main breadwinner. Especially over the past couple of weeks, I have loved seeing Paul--often single-handedly--take on most major responsibilities of our oldest three children (more than the average birthrate of our country) as I have been with Ella. He does many things better than I. He provides for them such a meaningful emotional element. Plus... he is much less uptight when things go awry. He is a wonderful father.
We have said a few times, it is too bad we couldn't just keep our "Eden" with him at home full-time with us. Oh, to be independently wealthy...
But work *we* must--because, yes, I work when he's at work (and he works whether he's at work or not)... and we are both working for the good of our home--ideally.
Which reminds me of one of my favorite quotes. It might seem a little self-aggrandizing at first, I'll admit. But hang in there...
"The homemaker has the ultimate career. All other careers exist for one purpose only--and that is to support this ultimate career."
--CS Lewis
And while paralleling homemaking with a career is something I despise (you can't put a price tag on what good parents do to *make* a home) almost as much as I despise all the insinuations that go along with being a "homemaker"... my feeling is that the focus of work and career should be the home you wish to "make" for yourself.
But somehow, the making of a home has commonly become secondary to the making of a career. The career has become the goal instead of the home/environment. And it isn't always just about prestige/power and money. Many times it takes the form of self-worth, the challenge of succeeding amidst stereotype and opposition, and having a bona fide reason to feel confident in society.
The goal to me seems to put real work into what will *ultimately* matter when the career is gone, retirement is necessary, and you are "stuck" with the home you have made for yourself.
speaking of health care. this little back and forth about teddy kennedy bespeaks the difficult issues surrounding capitalist versus socialist medicine...
Amy, I wish I were better versed in Danish legislation, but Denmark apparently has one of the highest birthrates in Europe and approximately 75% of women work. I think they have state-mandated 1-year leave that can be shared in any proportion between the two heads of household. The mother gets an additional four weeks just before her due date. Most parents will receive state-paid subsistence allowance during that time, which is generally 50% of salary. But many get full coverage for part of that time through their employer's policy. I think Sweden provides even longer parental leave (16 months) that can be shared between parents.
Compare this to the U.S., where there really isn't a national policy on maternity/parental leave, with the exception of 12-week unpaid job protected leave for mothers who are employed at fairly large companies. Some employers are more generous, but there is no requirement. I think working outside of the home is much more palatable when you know that you will be able to have a year after your baby's birth in which you or your husband will be home with the child with his/her job securely on pause (while being paid). Not that Denmark is perfect--they have a slightly lower percentage of women on executive boards than do other European nations, but other European nations have quotas. Many Scandinavian countries also guarantee access to quality childcare.
It would be nice if we, either as a country or in the private sphere, could experiment with some of these options. How about a shorter workday? Do New York lawyers really need to work from 9:00 to 8:00 pm (on a good day)? Does (affordable) health insurance have to be (in most cases) bound to traditional full-time employment? Can employers facilitate childcare? Some employers have experimented with these ideas, but many are cutting back. Google recently announced something like a 200% increase to their on-site child care, and the parents are very upset about it. The previously low-cost, quality childcare was a factor that many Googlers saw as an important part of their compensation.
As far as the U.S. being inflexible, maybe the strongest inhibitor of flexibility is simply a culture that adheres strongly to traditional stereotypes. The NYT recently ran a piece in which Lisa Belkin discussed various couples' attempts to split all their duties equally--both parents worked equal hours outside the home, both parents were equally likely to do grocery shopping, child care, etc. It turned out that it was so hard to fight outside expectations (based on stereotypes), that some of the couples simply gave up.
Oh, and Stephen, do you remember Francom's bio class? I have fond memories of sharing a table with you and Nathan Greene and listening to you two mutter quips to each other between Francom's biology mantras.
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